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1: Memory tracing. ★ 2017/09/18 (Monday) 11: 31: 26.65 ID: CAP_USER 9
https://headlines.yahoo.co.jp/hl?a=20170918-00050006-yom-bus_all
Subsidiary of Geo Holdings Co., Ltd., which handles games and DVD rental and sales
Geo said that the value of mobile phone "reserved mobile" kept at home without being used,
It summarized the trial calculation result that the total amount reaches 1 trillion 701.1 billion yen.
We carried out under the cooperation of professor emeritus Katsuhiro Miyamoto of Kansai University. Per cell phone per person
Number of mobile phone holders to the figure minus the average contracted number from the average holding number
Definition is made as "the number of mobile phones to be buried". Add this to the average purchase price of second-hand mobile
. At the time of the survey in 2015 it was 1,648.9 billion yen, which was about 50 billion yen increase.
Geo said, "The custom of selling unnecessary mobile devices (after replacement) is not rooted.
In the future, if "buried mobile" arrives in the second-hand market, further activation of the entire mobile market
I can expect it. "
Subsidiary of Geo Holdings Co., Ltd., which handles games and DVD rental and sales
Geo said that the value of mobile phone "reserved mobile" kept at home without being used,
It summarized the trial calculation result that the total amount reaches 1 trillion 701.1 billion yen.
We carried out under the cooperation of professor emeritus Katsuhiro Miyamoto of Kansai University. Per cell phone per person
Number of mobile phone holders to the figure minus the average contracted number from the average holding number
Definition is made as "the number of mobile phones to be buried". Add this to the average purchase price of second-hand mobile
. At the time of the survey in 2015 it was 1,648.9 billion yen, which was about 50 billion yen increase.
Geo said, "The custom of selling unnecessary mobile devices (after replacement) is not rooted.
In the future, if "buried mobile" arrives in the second-hand market, further activation of the entire mobile market
I can expect it. "
86: Mr. Anonymous @ 1st anniversary 2017/09/18 (Monday) 12: 03: 56.24 ID: jDGLog4T0
One
Garaka is there, but
I guess it's too embarrassing 0 yen
I wasted my mind after I was told that 30 yen was used for selling used books
Garaka is there, but
I guess it's too embarrassing 0 yen
I wasted my mind after I was told that 30 yen was used for selling used books
63: Mr. Anonymous @ 1st anniversary 2017/09/18 (Monday) 11: 55: 30.16 ID: 9sLTF1sz0
One
If you use it for 5 to 10 years it will not be worth buying it
If the average purchase price average is the model limit for the past few years (mainly smartphone)
Because it would contain a lot of valuable garrage in the number of mobile phones
Calculated trial data is completely meaningless data
If you issue data, please give out the number you divide between Garakae and smartphone
Should we lower the price factor of Garaka with little value at present and price it
> The figure obtained by subtracting the average contracted number from the average number of owners of mobile phones per person,
> The number multiplied by the number of holders of mobile phones is defined as "the number of mobile phones to be buried".
> Calculated by multiplying this to the average purchase price of second-hand mobile phones.
> The number multiplied by the number of holders of mobile phones is defined as "the number of mobile phones to be buried".
> Calculated by multiplying this to the average purchase price of second-hand mobile phones.
If you use it for 5 to 10 years it will not be worth buying it
If the average purchase price average is the model limit for the past few years (mainly smartphone)
Because it would contain a lot of valuable garrage in the number of mobile phones
Calculated trial data is completely meaningless data
If you issue data, please give out the number you divide between Garakae and smartphone
Should we lower the price factor of Garaka with little value at present and price it
96: Mr. Anonymous @ 1 anniversary 2017/09/18 (Monday) 12: 08: 13.18 ID: 9WfXtJ6c0
One
Take the average purchase price, what do you do. I heard that models that are said to be purchase price 10 yen are being withdrawn.
Take the average purchase price, what do you do. I heard that models that are said to be purchase price 10 yen are being withdrawn.
317: Mr. Anonymous @ 1 anniversary 2017/09/18 (Monday) 16: 07: 07.87 ID: 4 m Sbcg HY 0
One
When I checked the purchase price of the Garage that I was using
Because it was 700 yen, it is left as it is at home ('· ω · `)
When I checked the purchase price of the Garage that I was using
Because it was 700 yen, it is left as it is at home ('· ω · `)
3: Mr. Nanashi @ 1st anniversary 2017/09/18 (Monday) 11: 32: 30.82 ID: eNrue + il 0
No, it will collapse the price of the mobile if it all comes around
82: Mr. Anonymous @ 1st anniversary 2017/09/18 (Monday) 12: 02: 39.58 ID: 51OTO7lV0
>> 3
Yet, as the inventory sharply increases the price will go down, so after all Tenton
Instead of brand new items becoming unsold, it seems that gold turns worse in Japan as a whole
Yet, as the inventory sharply increases the price will go down, so after all Tenton
Instead of brand new items becoming unsold, it seems that gold turns worse in Japan as a whole
8: Nanashi @ 1 anniversary 2017/09/18 (Monday) 11: 33: 55.10 ID: w15xJql / 0
There are five to six in my parents house.
There are about 3 apartments as well
Even if it sells it is not likely to have a value
There are about 3 apartments as well
Even if it sells it is not likely to have a value
43: Mr. Nanashi @ 1st anniversary 2017/09/18 (Monday) 11: 46: 55.82 ID: SJQdtM0N0
>> 8
Lithium-ion batteries such as mobile phones or smartphones that we kept (neglected) for years
Although it is still good if it only inflates with overdischarge, the possibility of ignition at over discharge
There is little if there is.
Take it to Docomo Shop or Edion etc.
You'd better get it taken for free.
As long as you keep dangerous goods.
※ 3 below
Survey News - Tokyo Fire Department (PDF file)
http://www.tfd.metro.tokyo.jp/hp-cyousaka/kasaijittai/h26/1-10.pdf
Lithium-ion batteries such as mobile phones or smartphones that we kept (neglected) for years
Although it is still good if it only inflates with overdischarge, the possibility of ignition at over discharge
There is little if there is.
Take it to Docomo Shop or Edion etc.
You'd better get it taken for free.
As long as you keep dangerous goods.
※ 3 below
Survey News - Tokyo Fire Department (PDF file)
http://www.tfd.metro.tokyo.jp/hp-cyousaka/kasaijittai/h26/1-10.pdf
282: Mr. Anonymous @ 1st anniversary 2017/09/18 (Monday) 14: 17: 17.33 ID: 0BQxdGmI0
>> 43
Other handheld game machines, mobile routers, smartphones that are no longer used, mobiles, eneloop,
Today there are countless numbers in the family.
It's wasteful as I cleaned up a cell phone.
Take it.
Other handheld game machines, mobile routers, smartphones that are no longer used, mobiles, eneloop,
Today there are countless numbers in the family.
It's wasteful as I cleaned up a cell phone.
Take it.
291: Mr. Anonymous @ 1st anniversary 2017/09/18 (Monday) 14: 33: 36.60 ID: ZZ1UaAwQ0
>> 282
Rechargeable shavings and tools etc., and the energy is certainly nickel hydrogen.
Compared with batteries and NiCad, lithium ions do not penetrate much in the household. Outside the cell phone ,,,,.
Rechargeable shavings and tools etc., and the energy is certainly nickel hydrogen.
Compared with batteries and NiCad, lithium ions do not penetrate much in the household. Outside the cell phone ,,,,.
295: Mr. Anonymous @ 1st anniversary 2017/09/18 (Monday) 14: 35: 20.80 ID: SJQdtM0N0
>> 282
Enelope is a Ni-MH battery.
Many households use lithium-ion batteries in many cases
How to think about how to think about safety is another problem of self-responsibility.
After I suddenly rupt the tablet under storage by battery expansion this year
Another tablet, smartphone, Garaka who can not care
I got it taken over by docomo.
I got two PHSs taken over several years ago.
Currently, in addition to the main smartphone, there is one standby,
Mobile battery is one of Panasonic 's lithium ion,
One other Kindle Paperwhite and one stick type Walkman.
Enelope is a Ni-MH battery.
Many households use lithium-ion batteries in many cases
How to think about how to think about safety is another problem of self-responsibility.
After I suddenly rupt the tablet under storage by battery expansion this year
Another tablet, smartphone, Garaka who can not care
I got it taken over by docomo.
I got two PHSs taken over several years ago.
Currently, in addition to the main smartphone, there is one standby,
Mobile battery is one of Panasonic 's lithium ion,
One other Kindle Paperwhite and one stick type Walkman.
79: Mr. Anonymous @ 1st anniversary 2017/09/18 (Monday) 12: 00: 44.03 ID: BtaAdRe 30
Even if you keep a microwave oven at the mobile shop, it's fine
105: Mr. Nanashi @ 1st anniversary 2017/09/18 (Monday) 12: 13: 39.22 ID: BtaAdRe 30
I will do the data extraction with my PC, but the microwave odor, so I do not want to do it at my own house
114: Mr. Anonymous @ 1st anniversary 2017/09/18 (Monday) 12: 19: 01.04 ID: SJQdtM0N0
>> 79
>> 105
I can not take out the hard disk and the battery.
>> 105
I can not take out the hard disk and the battery.
>> 14 ) Do not put batteries in microwave oven or high pressure container
> Do not put the lithium ion secondary battery in a microwave oven or a high pressure container.
> It may be suddenly heated or the sealed condition may be broken, causing heat generation, explosion, or ignition.
> Do not put the lithium ion secondary battery in a microwave oven or a high pressure container.
> It may be suddenly heated or the sealed condition may be broken, causing heat generation, explosion, or ignition.
121: Mr. Anonymous @ 1st Anniversary 2017/09/18 (Monday) 12: 23: 26.27 ID: BtaAdRe 30
>> 114
Know
So you can not turn your phone into recycling
Know
So you can not turn your phone into recycling
145: Mr. Anonymous @ 1st anniversary 2017/09/18 (Monday) 12: 34: 50.25 ID: SJQdtM0N0
>> 121
You only have to dispose of batteries.
You only have to dispose of batteries.
75: Mr. Anonymous @ 1st anniversary 2017/09/18 (Monday) 11: 59: 28.58 ID: FXm0bQQp0
Well crush it for the coma
Is it burnable garbage ...
When we count it there are five dead
Is it burnable garbage ...
When we count it there are five dead
97: Mr. Anonymous @ 1st anniversary 2017/09/18 (Monday) 12: 09: 09.64 ID: SJQdtM0N0
75
If the municipality collects lithium-ion batteries
Separate properly and put out. If not collected,
Batteries of smartphones and mobile phones are picked up at the docomo shop.
Otherwise, garbage trucks will burn.
If the municipality collects lithium-ion batteries
Separate properly and put out. If not collected,
Batteries of smartphones and mobile phones are picked up at the docomo shop.
Otherwise, garbage trucks will burn.
88: Mr. Anonymous @ 1 anniversary 2017/09/18 (Monday) 12: 05: 51.34 ID: O + DPWd 9 w 0
Old mobile phones can not siphon data
I think that there are many people who will let go without saying it if possible
I think that there are many people who will let go without saying it if possible
98: Mr. Nanashi @ 1st anniversary 2017/09/18 (Monday) 12: 09: 15.03 ID: 5iH + bXYF0
>> 88
You can do it. You do it at the shop. There is such software.
You can do it. You do it at the shop. There is such software.
337: Mr. Anonymous @ 1 anniversary 2017/09/18 (Monday) 17: 50: 34.06 ID: NevwD1gT0
>> 98
I do not copy data at the shop now
It says "Please do it yourself"
Since SOFTBANK caused a data leakage incident several years ago
I do not copy data at the shop now
It says "Please do it yourself"
Since SOFTBANK caused a data leakage incident several years ago
195: Mr. Anonymous @ 1 anniversary 2017/09/18 (Monday) 13: 03: 29.27 ID: O + DPWd 9 w 0
>> 88
seriously?
Even with Garaka?
seriously?
Even with Garaka?
226: Mr. Anonymous @ 1st anniversary 2017/09/18 (Monday) 13: 20: 39.77 ID: qH5PVMor0
>> 195
A cable that changes the terminal of PDC or CDMA 2000 to serial is still available now
Conversion connector, cable, R / W software are also in circulation
Later WCDMA generation only buys IMT 2000 ⇔ USB cable
However, 1x WIN only looks at the modem and takes a bit of trouble (conversion of data is essential for data acquisition)
On the contrary PHS is fast from USB (virtual serial) Why is it easy
Let's connect it to a PC for the time being
A cable that changes the terminal of PDC or CDMA 2000 to serial is still available now
Conversion connector, cable, R / W software are also in circulation
Later WCDMA generation only buys IMT 2000 ⇔ USB cable
However, 1x WIN only looks at the modem and takes a bit of trouble (conversion of data is essential for data acquisition)
On the contrary PHS is fast from USB (virtual serial) Why is it easy
Let's connect it to a PC for the time being
154: Mr. Nanashi @ 1st anniversary 2017/09/18 (Monday) 12: 41: 39.01 ID: 5 + YHXgvm 0
All past mobile phones are kept.
The reason for not dispose is the voice remaining in the answering machine.
It is memories of the deceased now.
I can not do it.
Voice file is versatile
I wish I could easily copy it
It has not become so.
At least let me set the WAVE file.
The reason for not dispose is the voice remaining in the answering machine.
It is memories of the deceased now.
I can not do it.
Voice file is versatile
I wish I could easily copy it
It has not become so.
At least let me set the WAVE file.
157: Mr. Anonymous @ 1st anniversary 2017/09/18 (Monday) 12: 44: 14.35 ID: aGGMiLRi 0
>> 154
Play it and record it with a microphone.
Play it and record it with a microphone.
165: Mr. Anonymous @ 1st anniversary 2017/09/18 (Monday) 12: 47: 13.34 ID: SJQdtM0N0
>> 154
If you can connect with earphones,
Tags such as dates are impossible,
Connect audio cable to audio only
Do you think about copying to a PC or recorder?
Leave the disposal of the terminal for a while,
Let 's back up important voices.
If you can connect with earphones,
Tags such as dates are impossible,
Connect audio cable to audio only
Do you think about copying to a PC or recorder?
Leave the disposal of the terminal for a while,
Let 's back up important voices.
183: Mr. Anonymous @ 1st anniversary 2017/09/18 (Monday) 12: 56: 43.58 ID: + jAAX / OP0
It may be more than twenty if you put your family
At least you can buy it for 2000-3000 yen
If it is not it is troublesome only
At least you can buy it for 2000-3000 yen
If it is not it is troublesome only
200: Mr. Anonymous @ 1st anniversary 2017/09/18 (Monday) 13: 06: 19.07 ID: SJQdtM0N0
>> 183
About the possibility of ignition,
When there is something when there is nobody at home
Something happens when I do not have myself in my room
Do not you think?
As I come to a certain age,
After my sudden death in something
I do not want my family to leave it without throwing it away
(In this case, the number does not matter).
About the possibility of ignition,
When there is something when there is nobody at home
Something happens when I do not have myself in my room
Do not you think?
As I come to a certain age,
After my sudden death in something
I do not want my family to leave it without throwing it away
(In this case, the number does not matter).
263: Mr. Anonymous @ 1st anniversary 2017/09/18 (Monday) 13: 48: 40.95 ID: + jAAX / OP0
>> 200
Is it a mistake?
It's not limited to just such cell phones
When I say such a thing, the device I am currently using is much more bad
Is it a mistake?
It's not limited to just such cell phones
When I say such a thing, the device I am currently using is much more bad
267: Mr. Anonymous @ 1st Anniversary 2017/09/18 (Monday) 13: 54: 22.57 ID: SJQdtM0N0
>> 263
So do not use any lithium-ion battery-powered equipment
I am disposing it only on smartphones. Even equipment that can not be taken care of.
So do not use any lithium-ion battery-powered equipment
I am disposing it only on smartphones. Even equipment that can not be taken care of.
280: Mr. Anonymous @ 1st anniversary 2017/09/18 (Monday) 14: 12: 47.47 ID: ZZ1UaAwQ0
>> 267
In the meantime, about 20 years ago PHS and 10 years ago windows mobile,
I opened the battery and the battery was swelling.
Occitane.
In the meantime, about 20 years ago PHS and 10 years ago windows mobile,
I opened the battery and the battery was swelling.
Occitane.
206: Mr. Anonymous @ 1 anniversary 2017/09/18 (Monday) 13: 09: 00.42 ID: + zNkLAOm 0
Ignition with overdischarge ~?
I wonder if there is something to say
Is there such a thing?
I wonder if there is something to say
Is there such a thing?
216: Mr. Anonymous @ 1st anniversary 2017/09/18 (Monday) 13: 14: 04.22 ID: SJQdtM0N0
>> 206
To the investigation report of the Tokyo Fire Department
"Mechanism leading to fire of general lithium ion batteries"
As it comes out as one of them, I can not ignore it.
Eliminate the possibility of danger before betting etc.
To the investigation report of the Tokyo Fire Department
"Mechanism leading to fire of general lithium ion batteries"
As it comes out as one of them, I can not ignore it.
Eliminate the possibility of danger before betting etc.
234: Mr. Nanashi @ 1st anniversary 2017/09/18 (Monday) 13: 27: 32.57 ID: + zNkLAOm0
>> 216
I tried hard but
Underdog well I do not understand ~
Apparently it seems like a gas will rise and burst
Understand
Is not that J alert? Same as
Is not it a wasteful office at Tokyo fire department work?
I tried hard but
Underdog well I do not understand ~
Apparently it seems like a gas will rise and burst
Understand
Is not that J alert? Same as
Is not it a wasteful office at Tokyo fire department work?
257: Mr. Anonymous @ 1st anniversary 2017/09/18 (Monday) 13: 42: 57.12 ID: qH5PVMor0
>> 234
Lithium dissolved as ions by overdischarge becomes metal
It is like a crumbling tree with a tip
Ignoring and leaving it, someday short circuit the electrode, large current flows with the remaining charge Heat
Lithium also reacts with moisture in the air
If you hurry up with water it will make an explosive reaction
Lithium dissolved as ions by overdischarge becomes metal
It is like a crumbling tree with a tip
Ignoring and leaving it, someday short circuit the electrode, large current flows with the remaining charge Heat
Lithium also reacts with moisture in the air
If you hurry up with water it will make an explosive reaction
228: Mr. Anonymous @ 1st anniversary 2017/09/18 (Monday) 13: 23: 47.49 ID: 1 UppHvw 10
A cell phone with a premier was released before 1990
Even NHK 's Sarah Mesh was out, but it would be about this.
https://download1.getuploader.com/g/aosi77/107/keitai1987.JPG
Well, it is good that 10 to 300 yen is good for other models like worth buying price.
Even NHK 's Sarah Mesh was out, but it would be about this.
https://download1.getuploader.com/g/aosi77/107/keitai1987.JPG
Well, it is good that 10 to 300 yen is good for other models like worth buying price.
251: Mr. Anonymous @ 1st anniversary 2017/09/18 (Monday) 13: 36: 56.36 ID: C + zrHT6B0
>> 228
That's an antique item w
That's an antique item w
261: Mr. Anonymous @ 1st anniversary 2017/09/18 (Monday) 13: 48: 24.23 ID: qH5PVMor0
>> 251
Although it is an antique item, Narrow FM's mobile phone is closed
Revocation of type authentication and mobile station exemption as well
When it turns on power supply poorly (if the radio is alive), it is called directly from the comprehensive communication station (electric console) and "Please stop operation immediately !!"
As the place is balanced with census, police will come with a warrant if left unattended
There is no delay in enforcement ...
Although it is an antique item, Narrow FM's mobile phone is closed
Revocation of type authentication and mobile station exemption as well
When it turns on power supply poorly (if the radio is alive), it is called directly from the comprehensive communication station (electric console) and "Please stop operation immediately !!"
As the place is balanced with census, police will come with a warrant if left unattended
There is no delay in enforcement ...
254: Mr. Nanashi @ 1st anniversary 2017/09/18 (Monday) 13: 38: 17.74 ID: ARixKXWM 0
Purchasing wears complaints
Just as good as you gather in large quantities
Gold or rare metal
After extracting it's worth it
There might be, but
You're finished as a mobile
Just as good as you gather in large quantities
Gold or rare metal
After extracting it's worth it
There might be, but
You're finished as a mobile
265: Mr. Anonymous @ 1st anniversary 2017/09/18 (Monday) 13: 50: 57.16 ID: qH5PVMor0
>> 254
Not
Estimate of this reserving terminal * Because we just reduced production every year
Recycling includes collection, storage, sorting, crushing, melting, refining
Considering the energy of refining the cost does not match
Not
Estimate of this reserving terminal * Because we just reduced production every year
Recycling includes collection, storage, sorting, crushing, melting, refining
Considering the energy of refining the cost does not match
35: Mr. Nanashi @ 1st anniversary 2017/09/18 (Monday) 11: 41: 06.83 ID: mP5XoGhA0
Selling the phone and cho
300: Mr. Anonymous @ 1st anniversary 2017/09/18 (Monday) 14: 37: 34.30 ID: j2PKwZZK0
>> 35
More ♪ ~ ♪
More ♪ ~ ♪
44: Mr. Nanashi @ 1st anniversary 2017/09/18 (Monday) 11: 47: 13.86 ID: nwB3yCFL0
I want you to sell it for old Android Himeji.
For Android developers, we have to test their behavior
Older terminals are very important.
For Android developers, we have to test their behavior
Older terminals are very important.
325: Mr. Anonymous @ 1 anniversary 2017/09/18 (Monday) 17: 13: 49.17 ID: G4zaBCrt0
docomo had no time to respond if you do not offer an old phone at the time of a model change.
I will not forget the grudge at that time.
I will not forget the grudge at that time.
322: Mr. Anonymous @ 1st anniversary 2017/09/18 (Monday) 16: 27: 53.42 ID: I 0 o 8 W Z g b 0
I have everything from my mobile phone I bought 20 years ago to the present.
321: Mr. Anonymous @ 1st anniversary 2017/09/18 (Monday) 16: 22: 30.28 ID: Qibdleg 50
Please also take over our cathode ray tube TV
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